What is your level in english ?

Messagepar **MeIdmry** » 29 juin 2009, 23:08

Hello,

I open this section for ask you about your abilities in english.
For me, english has always been a difficulty, but I made progresses this year in MP*.
If you are in MPSI with M. Truflandier, you won't have nothing to wait for english.
However, I see that master this language is a good asset in a near future...

maxime_eduardo · Messagepar **maxime_eduardo** » 30 juin 2009, 00:01

*Aude* · Messagepar ***Aude*** » 30 juin 2009, 08:51

I've been in the European section for 3 years only. But it was a very bad one

. It was very boring, we didn't speak a lot, we had to struggle to a trip to London... I'm not happy at all. Therefore my English isn't very good. Fortunately, I've been to English-speaking countries but it's not miraculous.

Is English really important in Fermat?

Yaz · Messagepar **Yaz** » 30 juin 2009, 09:56

Fluent.

Messagepar **MeIdmry** » 30 juin 2009, 12:56

English isn't very important in Fermat, but a middle level is required (or a high level).
If your english isn't fluent, don't panic, you'll progress !
With the individual orals, you'll learn to express yourself, and tests will help you to write a good english. Not an excellent english, I recognize it...

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 30 juin 2009, 21:09

id also say fluent, but thats all.
i mean i've never had the chance to go to an english speaking country (except once, it was 5 years ago, i went to wales with my middle school), but ive had great teachers.
But (cuz yes, theres a but) the teacher i had this year was just... (hum i dont dare say useless). we never wrote anything except short sentences with not a single linking word such as "this text is an article. this text is about globalization", but of course we had to learn our vocabulary for our orals..because it is sooooooooo much more important than maths and physics.
The whole part of my english lessons is music =)

phil34 · Messagepar **phil34** » 30 juin 2009, 21:25

Maitreidmry a écrit :English isn't very important in Fermat, but a middle level is required (or a high level).
If your english isn't fluent, don't panic, you'll progress !
With the individual orals, you'll learn to express yourself, and tests will help you to write a good english. Not an excellent english, I recognize it...

what do you think about Mme Loubet?

She was my teacher this year and I was a bit dissapointed about her teaching methods.

Messagepar **MeIdmry** » 01 juil. 2009, 13:14

Mrs Loubet was my english teacher this year in MP*.

Her methods can be contested, but I had a very bad level after my first year with Mr Truflandier.
With her, I had to work english : she gave to us almost 20 tranlations and 15 themes in the year. Centrale/Mines/X/ENS, we have done everything.
She prepares to the exams, but we can speak about exageration... Maths and Physics are more important !
However, I have done great progresses in english !
So, thanks to you Mrs Loubet :wink:

I believe understanding : we have bad teachers in MPSI/MP, except in MP*. For you, HEC, english has a major place...

phil34 · Messagepar **phil34** » 01 juil. 2009, 14:07

We have studied only a couple of texts and i think that we really improve our level thanks to them. Nevertheless, like your class, we have done so many translations. English is not as important as you believe. Coef 4 whereas maths is 11, history 6, philosophy 4 etc...

Messagepar **MeIdmry** » 01 juil. 2009, 14:15

But, in your future life, english will be crucial...

Nicolas · Messagepar **Nicolas** » 01 juil. 2009, 22:37

I'd say fluent as much. Actually, I've been in a European class for 6 years, but the last 3 were useless, unfortunately.
And even if my English is not perfect, I try to improve it whenever I can : looking films in the original version, watching English-spoken TV news, reading books, chatting with strangers. But I do not do that in order to obtain good marks, I (nearly ^^) don't care : I do that because I think that English is a very beautiful language (unlike Spanish, grrr :evil:

) and it's always a pleasure for me to hear or to speak some English

I've been in England once, it was 3 months ago, and I stayed two weeks with a family; it was a really good experience, and I drank a lot of beer

And I can see here that I'm not as good as Maxime to put linking words everywhere in my sentences, I hope this will not handicap me :lol:

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 02 juil. 2009, 07:14

Nicolas a écrit :reading books

i've read a lot of english books as well..what are your favorite ones ? (well it seems that this topic is alive at last

)

Messagepar **MeIdmry** » 02 juil. 2009, 09:45

Nicolas a écrit :and I drank a lot of beer

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 02 juil. 2009, 11:48

*yuuuuuuuk*

(well i drank too much beer in poland a couple of years ago and now i cant bear it)

maxime_eduardo · Messagepar **maxime_eduardo** » 02 juil. 2009, 12:24

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 02 juil. 2009, 12:28

Does anyone know Tess Gerritsen ? i read Vanish 2 years ago totally by chance and now im just addicted to her..So if you're afraid of Shakespeare, read Tess Gerritsen lol. She's considered (at least in the united states) as one of the best thriller autor.

Messagepar **MarieJ** » 02 juil. 2009, 13:51

My level is not ... so, I have not been in an european section, never travelled in an English country ... but this summer, I'm going to spend a month in the USA ... I hope it will be great, but I'm afraid my english won't improve so easily. :mrgreen:

And I'm sure you will laugh reading me, because it must be bourred of errors. :mrgreen:

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 02 juil. 2009, 17:23

MarieJ a écrit :but I'm afraid my english won't improve so easily.

ive only been once to wales. it was for only 5 days but it definitely changed my english (even though i wont say that ive a genuine welsh accent lol). i realized that i was pretty fluent and now i just love speaking english. hopefully it will be the same for you =)

maxime_eduardo · Messagepar **maxime_eduardo** » 02 juil. 2009, 18:39

Zed · Messagepar **Zed** » 02 juil. 2009, 19:04

Hum be careful with Shakespeare, it's not the easiest author you can find. I mean, I read nearly anything in English, from novels to poetry ( Keats... <3, why can't we have such an amazing poet in France) or even some science magazines but Shakespeare lived in the 16th century and English has changed a lot since his death. It's just like reading Rabelais, beautiful old language but it's a foreign old language

maxime_eduardo · Messagepar **maxime_eduardo** » 02 juil. 2009, 23:12

*Aude* · Messagepar ***Aude*** » 03 juil. 2009, 08:46

You know, I'm... very afraid because every body seems to speak fluent English. I just feel ridiculous :cry:

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 03 juil. 2009, 09:11

but you're not, believe me =)
as long as you understand and you're able to write what you feel like writing.

Yaz · Messagepar **Yaz** » 03 juil. 2009, 11:23

*Aude* a écrit :You know, I'm... very afraid because every body seems to speak fluent English. I just feel ridiculous

Don't worry, if u read carefully, you'll see that there's many grammatical errors

Messagepar **Jimge** » 03 juil. 2009, 17:34

=>Don't read carefully !

Yaz · Messagepar **Yaz** » 03 juil. 2009, 17:46

Jimge a écrit :=>Don't read carefully !

darkpit · Messagepar **darkpit** » 03 juil. 2009, 19:43

Me too, I was afraid when I read all those messages in english last year but actually I managed rather well this year in english

.

Messagepar **MarieJ** » 03 juil. 2009, 20:32

*Aude* a écrit :You know, I'm... very afraid because every body seems to speak fluent English. I just feel ridiculous

I'm not so alone ... :mrgreen:

And I didn't noticed grammatical mistakes reading the others. :mrgreen:

Yaz · Messagepar **Yaz** » 03 juil. 2009, 20:52

Well, that just means you didn't read carefully :p

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 04 juil. 2009, 00:18

darkpit a écrit :actually I managed rather well this year in english .

mp3 ? your classroom is more than perfectly suitable for english lessons... we even had newspapers left on the floor so we could read before taking a nap ^^

*Aude* · Messagepar ***Aude*** » 04 juil. 2009, 11:08

Yaz a écrit :Don't worry, if u read carefully, you'll see that there's many grammatical errors

Yeah, I admit that I noticed some errors. But overall, the level seems to be extremely good.

maxime_eduardo · Messagepar **maxime_eduardo** » 04 juil. 2009, 13:04

Messagepar **MarieJ** » 05 juil. 2009, 15:35

*Aude* a écrit :
Yaz a écrit :Don't worry, if u read carefully, you'll see that there's many grammatical errors

Yeah, I admit that I noticed some errors. But overall, the level seems to be extremely good.

Yes, of course ... because reading you, those who have not a good level are afraid to post ...

darkpit · Messagepar **darkpit** » 05 juil. 2009, 22:34

Marie a écrit :
darkpit a écrit :actually I managed rather well this year in english .

mp3 ? your classroom is more than perfectly suitable for english lessons... we even had newspapers left on the floor so we could read before taking a nap ^^

173? (or 172 I don't remember

)
Yes, there were a lot of "20 minutes" on the floor, we enjoyed reading this, it is such an interesting newspaper ! Unfortunately, we had english lessons in a different classroom (bcpst

).

But our english teacher gave us "The World this week" from The Economist every week, you could have found this in paper planes :lol:

.

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 06 juil. 2009, 09:53

lol i havent seen any plane =(
at the beginning of the year we were also in bcpst's rooms (65), but with the competitive exams we moved to 172 :p

zedette · Messagepar **zedette** » 21 juil. 2009, 13:04

darkpit a écrit :
173? (or 172 I don't remember )

SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!
We were in 172!!!

Messagepar **Jimge** » 21 juil. 2009, 15:59

173 is not in the same corridor :

170 Bayle's room
171 MPSI2
172 MPSI3
...

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 21 juil. 2009, 18:27

indeed
and 173 is crap (we had our exams in it)

maxime_eduardo · Messagepar **maxime_eduardo** » 21 juil. 2009, 23:44

darkpit · Messagepar **darkpit** » 22 juil. 2009, 01:32

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 22 juil. 2009, 08:33

maxime_eduardo a écrit :is there any importance given to the number of our room ?

165 >> 166

(kidding)

zedette · Messagepar **zedette** » 22 juil. 2009, 17:27

darkpit a écrit ::oops:

I forgive you but just for this time. If you do that again I will have to denounce you to Mrs Peyre... :wink:

Messagepar **MarieJ** » 30 juil. 2009, 03:28

Hello from Dallas !!!

OK Im not going to improve my english here but who knows ?

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 30 juil. 2009, 08:20

go cowboooooooooooooooooooooys !

(i used to be a football fan lol)

adnan91 · Messagepar **adnan91** » 30 juil. 2009, 14:58

I can't get it! why is it an irish pub not a british or an american one?

Zed · Messagepar **Zed** » 30 juil. 2009, 15:35

because of guinness of course ! This disgusting beer is so famous and addictive^^

Yaz · Messagepar **Yaz** » 30 juil. 2009, 15:57

adnan91 a écrit :I can't get it! why is it an irish pub not a british or an american one?

Coz theres more irish pubs than nething else, even in London u'll c more irish pubs than english ones :/

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 30 juil. 2009, 18:26

adnan91 a écrit :I can't get it! why is it an irish pub not a british or an american one?

or a WELSH one ?

(hum, i had to say it sooner or later, wales is my favourite country =) )

leila09 · Messagepar **leila09** » 26 juil. 2010, 15:35

You've been mistaken girl ---> "I open this section TO ask you about..."

;-)

I'm pretty good at english, I teach that language to adults during my summer holidays and I think I do it well.
I've been awarded by a jury from the Cambridge university two years ago, I aim at becoming perfectly bilingual.

CHEERS GUYS !

Marie · Messagepar **Marie** » 26 juil. 2010, 21:55

Are you doing this as a kind of summer job ?

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